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Thursday, 31 October 2013

When Tommy Met Mo It Ended in Tears

I’ve watched the BBC documentary When Tommy Met Mo: Leaving the EDL (video above), which was clearly intended to portray Islam as a peaceful, nice and tolerant “religion”, hijacked by some, in short the usual spin, but this time with the prestigious and authoritative backing of a former English Defence League leader.

That Tommy Robinson lent himself to this circus shows what a confused man he is. He has a split personality, at least vis–à–vis Islam. There are times when he appears to understand, at least partly, what Islam is; and then there are times when he has strong doubts about what he has previously thought, and starts talking nonsense.

The fact that he may believe all the things said by Mohammed Ansar and Maajid Nawaz of the Quilliam Foundation is another indication of how unclear his ideas about Islam are. He wasn’t even able to quote from the Quran in an intelligible way, which would have been the easiest thing in the world and the first thing to do, when the others disputed his words. Of course we don’t know if the BBC cut out the parts when Robinson might have appeared not so gullible: we have to go by what the documentary shows, but I suspect that it must have had Tommy’s final approval.

About paedophilia, all he had to say is that Muhammad, the ideal man, the model of behaviour for all Muslims – none excluded – to follow, was a paedophile himself, which automatically legitimises paedophilia in Islam.

And about reforming Islam and throwing away parts – the nasty, “violent” he called them, parts - of the Quran: you cannot reform or pick and choose between the words of God, and for Muslims the Quran IS the direct word of God, verbatim dictated to Muhammad, unlike the Bible, that was written by men. So, unlike Christianity, Islam is by its very nature fundamentalist and cannot be reformed in principle.

The often-repeated leitmotif of the documentary was “British Islam”, a contradiction in terms no less than “squared circle”.

I’m writing all this not because Tommy or what he does have a supreme importance for me, although he's been a brave bloke and although his actions still have major effects. For example, a friend of mine, who is highly representative of public opinion and who watched the documentary too, now likes Tommy Robinson very much, thinks he’s a nice person, and more than ever hopes that Islam will be reformed and everything in the UK will be hunky-dory with Muslims. Which is the impression the BBC wanted to create: Islam is good and, even in case you doubt it - namely, even if you have eyes and ears –, it can always be reformed. What more do you want?

No, I’m writing this because there is a lesson for us on all this.

The lesson is that we cannot act without having thought first, which is what Tommy omitted to do. He has made such a mess of things: being against Islam – or maybe not -, then being an apologist for Islam, like the historian Tom Holland appearing on the programme, whom I never quite found convincing – and what he said on this broadcast confirms me in my opinion.

And Tommy made such a mess of things because he did not start with the right foot, which would have been having a good, solid and deep understanding of what he was fighting against, beginning with a clarification of the spurious distinction between Islam and Islamism, that he never quite realised to be fabricated. But, in a war, comprehending who your enemy is is necessary but not sufficient. You also have to understand who you are and more importantly what you fight for.

The existence of an LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transexual) division in the EDL shows very clearly that he did not grasp what he was fighting for. The Left, even before Islam, is our enemy. The Left is the enabler of Islam in the West. And you don’t fight the Left by joining it. The normalisation of homosexuality - and even more transexuality - is one of the many manifestations of the cultural war victories that Marxism has achieved over the Western, typically Christian, values and principles we stand for.

That’s why I keep stressing the importance of having clear ideas and ideology before anything else.

It doesn’t have to end in a civil war, as somebody gloomily forecasts, just because Tommy Robinson – and probably the EDL – have failed. We can learn from their mistakes and solve this problem politically, as we in the Liberty GB party are trying to do.


  1. In a short piece, Taqiyah Is Onion Shaped, former muslim Ali Sina exposes the lies of Mo Ansar and crew.

  2. Michael Copeland1 November 2013 at 08:24

    In a short piece, Taqiyah Is Onion Shaped, former muslim Ali Sina exposes the lies of Mo Ansar and crew.

    Ali Sina’s challenge at :

    ‘If you do not like this site and want me to remove it … disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay
    $50,000 U.S. dollars
    to anyone who can disprove the following accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:
    a narcissist
    a misogynist
    a rapist
    a pedophile
    a lecher
    a torturer
    a mass murderer
    a cult leader
    an assassin
    a terrorist
    a madman a looter

    I have debated with many Muslims.”

    The prize remains unclaimed. This is Mo Ansar’s opportunity. We wait.

  3. Dear Enza,

    I agree with everything you say, not least because you look well dirty innit. This can only be a good thing as far as I am concerned. Keep up the good work!

  4. Pamela Geller's atlasshrugs: Tommy Robinson vs Mo
    A few weeks ago we issued a statement expressing our disenchantment with Tommy Robinson’s new course. We applauded his decision to dissociate himself from the racists, neo-Nazis and antisemites who persisted in trying to gain control of the English Defence League…..

    ………. Tommy Robinson has written to us emphasizing that he has not changed his positions, and the unfolding events have borne that out. The documentary When Tommy Met Mo shows that Tommy was not fooled by the smooth deceptiveness of the dishonest Islamic supremacist Mo Ansar, and in numerous interviews Tommy has acquitted himself admirably, demonstrating that his commitment to resisting Sharia oppression and Islamic supremacism is as strong as ever……….

    Tommy is planning to start a new organization that is as free from Quilliam as it is from the EDL, and in that, and in his ongoing efforts to defend the British freedom and the vision of human rights that Judeo-Christian civilization has given to the world, we wholeheartedly and unhesitatingly support him….

    I believe we all would like more info. What type of organization is Tommy planning on?
    Will it be a street demo organization?

    I'm terribly sad regarding the demonization of the EDL. Obviously, there were people, a very small minority, that were a problem. And infiltrators from the government and other infiltrators.

    EDL members have paid a tremendous price for their patriotism and courage and should be thanked and praised. PEACEFUL EDL people attending demos have been violently physically attacked and had rocks and bottles thrown at them. The leaders of the former British Freedom Party attended an EDL street demo. It was horrendous. The treatment by the police was horrifying. The police deliberately endangered the women - placing some women at night time where there were roving gangs of Muslims.

    Many of us have always strongly supported the EDL and contributed to Tommy's defense fund when Tommy was in jail. EDL members held a rally for Tommy outside the jail.

    I will forever be grateful to the EDL for their fight for our freedom.

  5. Before Briton-hater, Islam-lover Cameron was ever elected prime minister freedom-hater Cameron said he would ban the EDL if he could.

    It is vital that Britain and the European countries have both the freedom party and the street demo organization. Both are urgently needed!

    Britain desperately needs the EDL and LIBERTY GB!

    Cameron, ruling elites and the media demonize the extremely courageous EDL who stand up for the human rights of intensely hated infidels. It is alarming when our side also demonizes the EDL.

    The EDL are HEROES who will go down in the history books! The brave English men and women who fought for freedom!

    Until the day I die I will be deeply grateful to the EDL.

  6. I thought Tommy was a regular guy.Mo was frankly lost and betrayed by the cancer cockroaches of that vile cult and islam looked like the stinking pile of faeces it truly is. Ugly,sordid,brutal,sexist,racist, just a big fat fake infantile godtwaddle.