Monday, 17 November 2014

Norway Says Enough, Deports Record Numbers of Immigrants to Reduce Crime

Muslims in Norway

The Norwegian paper The Local reported in September that asylum seekers and illegal immigrants (euphemistically called "persons living in Norway without papers") are over-represented in the country's crime statistics:
Asylum seekers and visa-less immigrants in Norway are charged with twice as many crimes per head of population as Norwegians, but still account for a very small proportion of overall criminality, a new report has said. [Emphasis added]
The authors of the report from the Norwegian Directorate of Immigration (UDI), in the typical, apologetic style of officialdom, felt compelled to add: "This is so little that it has minimal significance to the big picture of crime in Norway." This reservation echoes the way in which in Britain figures are twisted and contorted to portray immigration, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, as economically beneficial to the UK.

But on this occasion there has been a sort of social experiment carried out in Norway in the last couple of years, that empirically disproves the "minimal significance to the big picture of crime" fabrication.

Norwegians have progressively become aware of the link between crime and immigration. A November 2013 survey revealed that over half of the capital Oslo's residents feared street crime due to the rise in muggings. It got so bad that even the new Prime Minister, Conservative Erna Solberg, declared that immigrant parents should control their mugger kids.
Oslo saw 120 robberies in October [2013], more than any other city in Scandinavia. There were just 78 robberies recorded in Copenhagen and only 63 in Stockholm.
That something has started to change in Europe is obvious from the response from Norway's immigrant politicians, who agreed that young gang members are mostly foreigners and their parents could do more.
"I think actually Erna's hit the nail on the head here," said Abid Raja from the Liberal Party. "It's time to get past worries over making immigrant parents feel stigmatized. It is mainly young people from immigrant community who commit these robberies."
Action followed words. Last year the brand new government elected in Autumn - a minority coalition of Conservatives with the right-wing, anti-immigration, populist Progress Party, that has replaced a Labour government - started cracking down on immigration.

Progress, created 40 years ago, is in government for the first time.

Among the tougher measures implemented was that deported foreign criminals who return to Norway now face 2 years’ jail, a 10-fold increase in the penalty from 35 days, a measure that had the unanimous support from all parties.

But the most important policy introduced has been the vast increase in number of deportations.

In 2013, a record number of 5,198 foreign citizens were expelled from the country, an increase of 31% from 2012, when 3,958 people were deported.

Frode Forfang, head of the UDI, put it simply: "We believe that one reason for the increase is that the police have become more conscious of using deportation as a tool to fight crime.”

The number of deportations increases from one year to the next and one month to the other.

In October 2014, 824 people were forced out, which is the highest number of people deported in a month in the history of Norway’s National Police Immigration Service (PU).

This has established a new record, beating the previous record set in the month before, September 2014, with 763 deportations.
The National Police Immigration Service (Politiets Utlendingsenhet) has released latest figures showing in the last six months [from the article's date, 3 July 2014] an average of 18 illegal immigrants per day were deported from Norway. This figure is up from 13 deportations for the same period last year.

The main reasons for deportations are people not having valid residence visas or being involved in crime. During the first half year this year, 3,167 people were forced out of Norway, 1,237 of whom had criminal convictions, newspaper Dagbladet reports.

Kristin Ottesen Kvigne, head of the police immigration service, told the newspaper: "We are at our highest number of illegal immigrants ever and deportation is a policy the government wants".

The service has a target of 7,100 people to be deported by the end of 2014.
What has the result been?

PU head Kristin Kvigne, in an interview with the Dagsavisen newspaper, said that the increased deportations save Norwegian society much money. It costs money to try people in the courts and to jail them.

She explained that people have been deported because their asylum applications have been rejected in terms of the Dublin Agreement, the international agreement which governs asylum seeker applications.
If the current trend continues, the PU will “reach its target” of deporting at least 7,100 people this year, meaning that at least 20 per day are being sent home.

Of the 5876 people deported this year so far, the majority have already been found guilty of criminal acts, Kvigne said. She said it was thus “important to view the high number of deportations made by PU in the context of falling crime rates across the country.”

She said that Norway has a voluntary repatriation program, where “asylum seekers” are paid to return to their home countries, but few take up the offer and most have to be forcibly deported.


  1. I'm almost afraid to hit the like button.. let alone comment. The UK government and Facebook administrators are so paranoid over immigration and so called 'human rights'.. that the general public are likely to face a jail sentence if they agree with postings. Freedom of speech here is now, sadly, a thing of the past.

    1. The good part of this story is that as you see how they make concessions to foreigners they are weak, I mean the liberals. They always were. This is why if the population would act tough on this issue or any other issue against them they will back off immediately. Right now they capitulate to the strongest public forces -which in their opinion it's the Muslim minority. Liberal ideology is an effeminate entity in search of a stronger party. The question is who will fill the gap and come in to show them who the real boss is. I am afraid that there is no other alternative because the democratic process is so much divided by conclusive separate interests that at the time things will start moving in the right direction the West would be already demographically destroyed.

  2. Why don't we take them off Norway's hands for them? After all, we love foreign immigrants here, whatever their leanings, be it crime, Islam, or whatever.

    1. Ummmm no thanks very dumb idea unless you like your family slaughtered or beheaded that's just the dumbest thing ever

    2. And if that happened let's let them all live with you lol

  3. Just make sure when you deport them...they dont come back through the rear door!

  4. The deportation does not mean that Norway does not need more immigrants.

    It's time to look forward not backwards. The world is changing but most are too afraid to lead the way. And those who will not accept change will be left behind. London, the cross ward of all nations living in tolerance for each other... A vision of the future of the earth civilisation .. A vision of what the world is. One boat. Pushing immigrants on one side of the boat will tilt the entire boat. If Britain follows European immigration policies it's boat will sink. The views that some share about white English having to deal with foreign language and foreign faces are living in a world that doesn't exist. A world where nationalism has no place.

    Europe is a sick
    Sick from hate
    Sick from gluttony
    Sick from racism
    Sick from addiction
    Sick from arrogance
    Sick from ingratitude
    Sick from ignorance
    Sick from waist

    Want your health back?

    Adopt progressive thinking
    Work together
    Learn from what you don't understand
    And stop hating those you fear

    One planet. One human race

    1. Allah is not God. He is Satan wearing a mask.

      Isa (Jesus Christ) is not a prophet. He is God, Himself. Only through Him, can one have their sins forgiven and reach Heaven.

      John 14:6 (Christian Bible)
      "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    2. Ask Thomas Jefferson who studied the Noble Quran before he wrote the US Constitution. About 9 million Muslims have made America their new Homeland and we have the Constitutional rights of Freedom of Speech and Religion. Nobody can intimidate us. CAIR and many Muslim organization protect our rights. We will continue to be a light to America and invite others to Islam. But we will not force anybody. Everyday, We see an increase in Muslim population with new converts. This shows how Islam is becoming popular and more acceptable to people. Please note more people have converted to Islam after the horrific events of 911. And 911 was masterminded by the enemies of Islam.

      Islam is portrayed as a religion of “terror” and “killing”, yet this is just one of the most widely held misconceptions about Islam. Allaah Almighty states unambiguously in the Quran (what means): "Nor take life -- which Allaah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]

      Based on this verse, it is Islamically unlawful to murder anyone who is innocent of any crime. At this point, we would do well to remember the distinction between the Quran and Sunnah, and the Muslims. Only the Quran and Sunnah are guaranteed to be in accordance with what the Creator desires, whereas the Muslims may possibly deviate. Hence, if any Muslim kills an innocent person, that Muslim has committed a grave sin, and the action cannot be claimed to have been committed "in the name of Islam."

      It should be clear, then, that the oft-used term "Muslim terrorist" is almost an oxymoron: by killing innocent people, a Muslim is committing a grave sin, and Allaah is Just. This phrase is offensive and demeaning of Islam, and it should be avoided. It is hoped that as the general level of public awareness and understanding of Islam increases, people will keep "terrorism" and "Islam" separate from each other, and not use them in the same phrase.

      Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism
      Erik Rush and others who hastened to scapegoat Muslims for the Boston Marathon bombing are ignorant of the religion. I can’t understand why people who have never so much as read a book about a subject appoint themselves experts on it.(Try this book, e.g.). We don’t yet know who carried out the attack, but we know they either aren’t Muslims at all or they aren’t real Muslims, in the nature of the case.
      Michael Hart is a Jewish person who wrote the famous book. Read what he writes about our Noble Prophet.

      The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia
      The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.[1]

      The first person on Hart's list is the Prophet of Islam Muhammad,[2] a selection that generated some controversy.[3] Hart asserted that Muhammad was "supremely successful" in both the religious and secular realms. He also believed that Muhammad's role in the development of Islam was far more influential than Jesus' collaboration in the development of Christianity. He attributes the development of Christianity to St. Paul, who played a pivotal role in its dissemination.

    3. All your talk about civilization and hate is funny as the Middle East is the least hospitable to live, especially for well... diverse religions? Don't know many Buddhists living in the Arab states, only some Christians survived and only because the strong influence of the international community.

      Talking about hate? How about respect? Respecting the desire of other people to not be forcefully transformed into multicultural mess -the locals, do not give me the corporatists non-sense excuse.

      Europe needing immigration? The reason why Gerard Depardieu went to Russia might have something to do with the fact that multiculturalism is killing the cultural identity of a country without giving something even remotely close in exchange. Look at the cultural identity of United States before and after 1965 when they voted a new immigration act which changed into accepting people from Asia and Africa, whose immigration was not allowed before. See any difference?

      And by the way you cannot put ideals like equality into equation when at stakes is groups of people who suffer from insistent copulatory disorder, because instead leveling things up this will become a demographic takeover characterized by at least one culture and one ethnicity dying be it from the part of the Asians, Africans or Europeans which is against the very logic of evolution. This is not an idealistic thing freezed in time multicultural evolve numerically in one direction or another to the detrimental of all but one. Praising multiculturalism is praising death because it carries destruction and death in the process.

      You are not even sincere and thus you lack character, for while talking about equality you praise the rise of one religion over another.

    4. We live in a country that is fuelled by Immigration and Migration. The Blue collar jobs, the jobs the British public do not want to do is done by our Immigrant/Migrant communities because the young people of Britain think its below them. We are educated to such a high standard that working on assembly line is beneath them, that if your not earning over 25,000 a year your not worth anything, the media and corporate influence has a huge part to play in gauging what success actually is, its a real shame the we believe them.

      If I had a choice in my business to hire a British person or an Immigrant/migrant I would hire the latter without question and without even thinking about it because they want to work, they want to work hard and they are 9 times out of 10 reliable. Sadly its usually the reverse of our young people.

      I understand that many people have specific skill sets and those people are the people the government should be helping. They should not be helping our youth, our young people should understand they are not company directors and managers, not sales executives until they have gone out and got some experience of life, our graduates are misinformed of the world that is waiting for them.

      Immigration/Migration is necessary for this country until the people in the UK understand that you work to live, you start at the bottom and work up and that you cannot expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter. Life is not like that and it never will be, bout time we educated our population instead of the media influencing it.

      Also to those that think our Immigrant communities are not safe, your right but do you know why? They are unsafe because they have had to insulate themselves from the white community for fear of hate crimes and the like. Our communities are just as bad for them. Education is the key, information is the key and when we all finally wake up to that it will be too late...

    5. Another fallacy, that without immigrants Western countries will fall apart -the fact that these countries existed 500 years ago and before that is the very prove that your argument is not true. The reason why companies hire immigrants are connected to money, yes, yet if the law will force them not to hire immigrants anymore those jobs will not remain vacant anyway. Competition will get stiffer unsuccessful businesses will die (those who barely produce enough to pay their employees the minimum sum), big companies will make a bit less money having to pay more for having the locals doing the job and that's it. No country will die without immigrants no European population will go extinct under the huge pile of garbage that no one will have the guts to pick up to clean the place -on the contrary the streets will be cleaner as Europeans tend to clean up their place more often than fellow immigrants. Want another prove that a country can live without immigrants? My country do not have immigrants and yet it did not fall apart.

      Immigrant communities are unsafe because the immigrants plain and simple. I give you an example regarding gypsies -they migrated here 500 years ago, yet they are not integrated despite titanic efforts that have been put by our government -giving them jobs and they refuse to work as much as they can, letting them to follow schools and yet they hate books or just get bored after reading a few words. Now, if it happens that your neighbors are gypsies, 9/10 they will try to steal something from you or will attack your kids or do worst. Without anyone provoking them in an way. This is not something you can do it is in their blood. Same is true with immigrants. You cannot cheat nature, if you have the feeling you do not belong here you go, this is common sense. Maybe some immigrants are masochists, who knows? Or maybe they are fooled by propagandists like you that one day (in 3400 ac maybe) one day the country will be theirs -without realizing the sick morality of what they embrace as an ideal goal.

    6. Iftikhar Ahmad
      Another taqiyya merchant. Anyone with eyes and a functioning brain sees Islam at work in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, North Africa and many western countries and concludes "so this is a religion of peace??"
      So take your Islamic LIES and go live in one of your Islamic paradises, fool- you're not welcome here.

    7. It is easy to say" Go back to where you came from", but do not forget that British Muslims are actually born and educated here. They are in the unenviable position of trying to combine two different worlds. That is no easy. We do not want to change you lot but we would like to see our children getting balanced Islamic education along with National Curriculum. We would like our children to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time we would like our children to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. Bilingualism is an asset but British schooling regards it as a problem.

      We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPASS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin.

      A City or a locality, where Muslims are in majority is a ghetto. There is a tendency for people of similar backgrounds to live together in neighbourhoods. The term”ghettoisation” is inappropriate. The original ghettos in Europe during the middle ages were set up by law to confine the Jewish population to one area of a city. According to a research by an Australian academic that Muslim communities in Britain are being increasingly ghettoized in a trend that set back hopes of assimilation by years. Britain has now eight cities in the top 100 most ghettoized cities. The people from the Pakistani community in Bradford and Oldham and Leicester had trebled during the decade. A report by an academic Dr Alan Carling, that Bradford risks becoming a front line in the global clash between the West and Islam. But Islam and Muslims do not clash with the concepts of pluralism, secularism and globalisation. The native flight from Bradford’s inner-city wards showed clear evidence of an increase in segregation in the city since 1991. Native parents are avoiding sending their children in state schools where Muslims and other minorities are in majority. The dominance of Pakistani Muslims in the city has meant that Bradford has become bi-cultural.

      Immigrants are the creators of Britain new wealth, otherwise, inner cities deprived areas could not get new lease of life. The native Brits regard such areas as ghettoes. Integration is not religious and cultural, it is economic and Muslims are well integrated into British society and at the same time they are proud of their Islamic, linguistic and cultural identities, inspite of discrimination they have been facing in all walks of life. According to UN, 80% of British Muslims feel discriminated. They are less burden on social services. Immigrants made up 8.7% of the population, but accounted for 10.2% of all collected income tax

      It is often quoted by the Western media that Muslim schools ghettoizes the children, and even lead to their radicalisation if they are not integrated. There is no evidence that faith schools lead to a “ghettoized education system. In British schools, pupils are encouraged to focus too much on their similarities rather than their differences.

    8. At one time immigrates were invited, but crime, welfare and not wanting to assimilate is a serious drain and getting worse instead of better,

    9. Actually @ Iftikhar Ahmad. The verse you quote in effort to TRICK people into believing your book condemns the terrorist actions of Islamic persons is the actual reason it IS so evil. All one need do, according to that verse, is state that those persons to whom they direct their violence towards DID commit a "Sin" according to their beliefs and understandings of the "Islamic laws". Hence any "Sin" deemed a "sin" by their religious interpretations and faith gives them free reign to commit the atrocities that they do. You (Admittedly like some other religions , including Christian) fall into the trap of thinking YOUR religious interpretations (Laws and sins) gives you the right to take public action on those beliefs.....the difference between Islam and those other religions however, is that those other religions have long ago given up the SYSTEMATIC and RELGION WIDE abuse of that belief by taking DEADLY and VIOLENT action on a public scale. That is therefore the danger of Islam, and until you people stop that part of your belief system, Islam is a clear and present danger to the general public and should be governed and actioned upon in accordance with the public safety.

    10. Yep pay attention government

  5. "Insistant Copulatory Disorder"?
    Mind if I borrow that phrase from you?
    As far as Islam goes, it is a cancer that spreads, killing and subjugating all non-cancer cells, consuming the host. It is a junkyard dog of a religion; allah is the moon god, one of 300 gods the Arabs worshiped until mohammed the wannabe prophet elevated him to the #1 god. Religion of peace, my ass. They can't even live peacefully with each other.

    1. Out of the 6 million Muslims living in the US, around 1.5 million are converts to Islam. (You tube:- nbc News 20000 Americans convert to Islam Every Year! and CNN News 1.5 Million Americans converted to ISLAM in USA). In the UK recent article in the Independent Newspaper UK – “The Islamification of Britain: record numbers embrace Muslim faith” The number of Britons converting to Islam has doubled in 10 years. Why? Jerome Taylor and Sarah Morrison investigate. Over 50% of the converts in the UK are white and over 60% are women. Joshua Evans, Abdul Rahim Green, Yusuf Estes, Dr Lawrence Brown, Dr Jerald Dirks, Sarah Joseph, Lauren Booth, Yvonne Booth - ex Christian youth ministers, preachers, ex-deacon & graduate from Harvard with a masters in divinity leave, sister in law of Tony Blair, journalists have left Christianity and become Muslim. We are talking about well educated people (as you can tell when they speak) not converting because they have been bought out by food & water or forced to convert.

      We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPASS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin.

      A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. The whole world belongs to Muslims. He/she must learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, he/she must learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. For a Muslim English is an economic language and Arabic is a religious while Urdu and other community languages are their social and emotional languages.

    2. There are so many converts because marriage affairs and second because beloved Saudi Arabia with all those religious gang countries finance the Islamic church in the States as well as in Europe. It is the same like it is when converting Orthodox Christians by baptizing them mostly done by Americans in order to weaken and then destroy European nations. Most of them who are being baptized are very poor people attracted by the promise that his "brothers" will help them. This is not really the merit of the religion per se but the result of the policy of your priests and foreign Islamic countries what you are talking about.
      They must be brainwashed anyway the fountain of stupidity never drains thank God. Why else on Earth would someone turn to a totalitarian superstitious religion when technology and all scientific discoveries prove more and more that the idea of God like it is being put in religious books is far away from the truth? And then the fact that when we talk about marriages most of the men want the women to renounce her Christian religion in favor of Islam this one more prove about the lack of "tolerance" of your religion and of your fellow people. Which says it all about the Muslim people, what kind of people adhere to his form of superstition -considering that all religious are a mix of superstitious thoughts and tradition (tradition which have no logic by itself to attract foreign people beyond the first gesture curiosity which is common to all people.

    3. Islamic conversion happens numerous ways, and it is rarely for the glorious and saintly reasons moderate muslims imagine. Just to name a few: angry and frustrated prisoners who are furious with the system and feel lost to the world; young people from boken homes where the parent(s) have failed to provide a strong moral guidance system and enough interaction with the community and family; people who have become disenchanted or disgusted with Christian principles and hierarchy (esp. Catholic) or who are tired of having to throw logic and science out the window (which in Islam you don't)... just to name a few categories. It is fairly easy to brainwash these folks, and if there is a romantic attachment to a muslim, all the easier. So no need to pat yourself on the back for all those conversions... they are not what I would call "spiritual" conversions that speak to the merits of Islam... they are conversions based on needs. Now don't get me wrong... they are just as, if not MORE dangerous as converted muslims to get radicalized... in fact it is much more likely that a convert gets radicalized than a native muslim. It is therefore VITAL that we head off those groups prone to conversion, like the prison population, the troubled youth etc... and NOT with OTHER religious crap... but with secular/scientific activities that speak to their leadership and self confidence to become capable of reasoning and critical thinking.

    4. If a non-Muslim does something is crime. But if a Muslim does the same..he is terrorist.

      I liked the answer of this German Muslim scholar
      when he was asked about terrorism and Islam :
      1. He said : Who started the first world war?Muslims?
      2. Who started the second world war ? Muslims ?
      3. Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims ??
      4. Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Muslims ??
      5. Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ??
      6. Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ? Muslims ??
      7. Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims ??

      No , They were not Muslims!!! First of all, You have to define terrorism properly... If a non-Muslim does something is crime. But if a Muslim does the same..he is terrorist... So first remove this double standard...then come to the point!!! , . . . .

    5. That post was just weird... what on earth did that have to do with the con-versation? And it didn't even make sense. Look. I realize moderate muslims get a bad rap... but you have to understand that what is written in the quran and hadith is in black and white and proclaimed as the "word of god" by muslims themselves, so when you've got suras like sura an-Nisra saying to "strike her" when your wife gets arrogant... well, there isn't much you can say to the defense of Islam as a whole... even moderate muslims must, by default and by definition declare this as the infallible word of god and therefore agree with it, or risk being accused of apostasy. The same goes with raping female slaves, marrying and having intercourse with underaged girls, and other atrocities encouraged by the very words that muslims declare as the "perfect word of god"... you cannot expect non-muslims, especially secularists, to show any respect for that nonsense, and ESPECIALLY when it is then being used by extremists to commit heinous crimes against humanity. Simple as that. When are you going to get it in your head?

    6. You got it all right thank you for that

    7. People are not declaring Muslims who do crimes terrorists is not a true statement to the Muslim man who stated it they are calling Muslims who radicalize to kill others terrorists so get it right and that's meant for the man who argued that we call all Muslim criminals terrorists but truth is also if you are allowed to live in a country that tries harder for peace and kindness then keep your nose clean don't do crimes it's only natural as it shows you don't appreciate the gift given

  6. "Prophet of Islam Muhammad,[2] a selection that generated some controversy.[3] Hart asserted that Muhammad.. He also believed that Muhammad's'

    quoted a Muslim.

    I don't know what he is babbling about from the Koran because I do not have to. This is the luxury of staying home not running away where there are people living better. I was choosing to stay and endure despite harsh conditions in my country. This is the true attitude toward work and having to start from nothing and then to rise. The first step is to stay at home and become successful there. If I am not successful at home I am not gonna be in other parts of the world unless I will profit on someone else by robbing people or stealing through legal means -so-called asylum seekers preferred method. You see, considering that the immigrants lack this thing firstly they are all weak. Hilarious how they call themselves strong proud and decent. I am not having to learn foreigner's ideologies. Muslim immigrants confound America with Europe. We Europeans are not immigrants this is why through other we do not have anything in common with immigrants. Then it is a common sense situation that the guest to respect the habits of the host not the other way around. Or at least it should be. If you are really proud. Then again you are really proud you do not immigrate into a country where people do not want you. We who did not immigrate and see the behave of those who did are not pleased by their attitude.

    I will try to educate a bit this poor soul that quoted from some unholy book, God bless him.
    Religion was always a tool to mobilize masses. I do not say that every time a new religion appeared this was evil -religions bare the merits for the formation of modern states. But religion also posses the characteristics of the people who created the religion. This is why i.e. Islam and older Christian religion from the Old Testament talk much more about death and propagate the idea of "an eye for an eye" while modern Christianity that appeared in Europe under the form of the New Testament praise modern values like love and respect for each other while putting to rest sentiments of revenge or destruction. Christianity is far from perfect but 1. at least it evolved and 2. it's adherents are not fanatically clamping to it. Behind every religion there is the cultural identity of its perpetrators. While traditionally speaking this is good, to respect the religion of your elders, in the era of technological advancements it is very dangerous people to still fanatically held the same beliefs, taking the teachings of the Bible or Koran ad litteram. This is why all Muslim are dangerous, even peaceful ones. It
    does not matter so much how they act to defend their religion as it is how strict do they intend to keep to their form of superstition -and there is no comparison to their Christian counter-parts. It means basing your beliefs pretty much on superstition and while carrying the tradition might be good in some aspects basing the whole aspects of your life or the primordial aspects on a conglomerate of tradition and superstition is not something recommended because every religious book is a static representation of the world in certain times so it means choosing not to care about your surrounding and evolution. Which makes it what Churchill said, a "retrograde religion". This might be good as well for them as I dot call for them to change their values at home, in the Middle East -they do and believe what they want there, Europeans do not have the right to interfere there as they do not have the right to interfere in Europe.

  7. More on point and to end this, Islam is especially not recommended in the West because it formed in close proximity to Christianity with the very goal to destroy it.

    Let's take for instance the Muslim habit of eating just certain food -halal? -while declaring other food (pork) as being "impure". The tradition had sense a millennium ago for a Muslim leader who had in mind its political goal. Islam was created in response to the Jewish Christianity and other Christians. It found a way to unite the various tribes under a single ideology opposed to Christians. Koran says that pork is "impure" because the Muslims wanted to avoid the trading of pig food which was Christian mark.

    Europe was full of swamps at the time so it was easy for the population to grow pig farms. Winters in Europe were very cold. Pork was easy to be obtained and it gave more fat to the body which reduced death rates among Europeans caused by the cold. Pig food was necessary for Europeans and Christians exported pork to other parts of the world, like Egypt and the M.E.

    Islam was created with the goal to destroy Christianity. Islam did not like having Asian Christians living better thanks to economical trades with Europeans. They could not let this go by so they found the solution: it was to ban Christian economies by putting in the Muslim holy book the products they have been trading as "impure". Because there were not many pig farms in the M.E. the ban did not affect Islamic tribes. Banning pork or declaring it "impure" was a weapon used against other religions, especially Christianity. Christians were not saints either, thus the similarity in the Biblical representations of Satan to a goat. Both parts were fighting each other through all possible means of superstition and representation.

    While Christians do not care what other people eat, Muslims are still living with the old mentality that pork is "impure". While Christianity evolved maybe a bit too much, to the point of being assimilated by other religions because its open views and open doors, Islam remain glued to the same old ideology with very few adjustments. Both -the unchanged nature of Islam and the concerning number of Muslims caring too much to follow their religion by the book, be they peaceful or not -all is pointing toward one thing: that it is not that much the nature of Islam per se to question but the nature of the people carrying it. It may well be that conservative Islam is a defense mechanism. There are all those countries all speaking the same language and fighting each other under the flag of Islam, two main Islamic ideologies fighting for supremacy and proving that Muslims still have problems evolving from tribalism to nations, far away from living in a globalized world. Only liberals seem to believe that somehow Muslim tribalism can miraculously jump over one or two necessary evolutionary steps.

    Not only that Muslims are not compatible yet with Western countries. Those baring supremacist ideals are jeopardizing the established peaceful stance of the Christianity, threatening Christian religion to take a step back and revive those old times of Christian fanaticism. No one did ever succeed to conquer the whole world and no one will ever will. The prophecy in a scifi movie speaks very nice: "This is not your planet. The Fallen shall rise again". If the Islamic supremacists will succeed to awake the monster of Christian fanaticism, then all those ISIS killings will cry that we have seen nothing yet compared to the Christian fanatical response. And on top of that there is the danger of Europe falling into a similar situation that we have in the Middle East with many small states fighting each other. The Islamic world would bring back tribalism to Europe if let in. Islam have the ideology of destroying Christianity to its core, this was its primordial role, without Christianity Islam would die instantly. Only bad things will happen if Europe do not push them back.

  8. Go Norway! Or rather Go Norway's illegal immigrants and criminals! Excellent policy, and a first step towards rolling back the islamification of civilised countries.

    1. Now canada and USA need to do this and fast


  10. I fully agree with Norway as things are getting out of hand with Isis and terrorism around our world and if they don't do something now later will be to late and all these people who think it's mean or disagree with the deportations might be singing a different tune while they watch a loved one beheaded or killed when the evil keeps spreading and there are already radicle a who come to our world for a better life but not respect or gratefulness for the country they come to to flee the evils of their own countries instead they procreate and have large families and within their homes teach the same mentalities of these groups only to try and bring those ways of thinking to the society that helped them and if nothing gets done

  11. If they are found to be any part of radicalizing or hate crimes even one time is enough and not any one person should be shocked at this unless they don't want a fade country ....I lived in a Muslim relationship ten long years and saw first hand how this mentality works in our society and when I asked why his family came to canada if they hate Canadians so much or are prejudice his answer was because we want the financial gains an all the services we offer it was never about our society protecting them or even the sound of being grateful to what they'd been given all the while I was prejudiced from his Muslim family not because they ever knew me because that was not allowed but because I was Canadian in fact I was told I was expected to be Canadian on the outside but behave Muslim on the inside .....if canada and the USA don't foll

  12. If canada and the states and others around the world don't do the same they will regret it I feel as things are becoming out of hand and spreading quickly many people take for granted that our world or country will remain the same and untouched because of protection from our government but have they not seen that these Muslim raised people are getting also into our politics and who's voting them in? Other large families and Muslims and if you don't see how the large families work open your eyes women seem to never work in our society as we seem to support these Muslim families they go then and have 10-15 babies and the our society can't understand why all of a sudden we have these groups who hate. I've lived it so not anyone can convince me otherwise. I'm not saying deport the people who have never done anything but be grateful but if anyone is found connected to this hate yes immediately Gould be sent back I hope canada and the USA is listening and ready to act and I've heard that even Obaba is Muslim so I'm not certain what that means as being a world leader but not all Muslims are bad people only the ones who use their religion to do evil

  13. We are only a great nation to the degree we keep evil out otherwise our nation they will destroy like their own

  14. When I read what Norway did I was relieved to say the very least as I just finished saying that to someone the other day that they all need to start doing this and anyone opposed to deporting potential evil or people who don't agree are either evil themselves or family to the deported and sadly criminals are criminals like it or not and there is absolutely never a reason and never an excuse to kill or hurt innocent people so if you are found to be shadey or less innocent that's your own fault and you should have known better then to plot against a country who have you a chance to have a safer and better life and like a child looses a toy for bad behaviour adults loose privileges for bad behaviour and anyone who gets evil or nasty on this blog or other blogs might need to go as well because they are also showing support for evil doings so what does that say? I'd have more respect for a person who pleads they are sad that their love one got deported but who can acknowledge their family member or friend did something wrong to go against what they'd been given. If I stole at work or beheaded a coworker guaranteed is be fired even for plotting and if my mentality showed that I believed these evils to be ok I'd be fired and likely sent to a mental facility and locked up....our society is supposed to care about others not make it ok to kill and when I say that I mean innocent people not evil people who would take another's life jut because they can and want to hate and want power over another there are to many bad seeds and the government needs to read these blogs to see that some of them are on even these blogs if hey can support such evils and not think evil needs to be sent from our countries

  15. Also they should be happy to be deported if they agree with groups like Isis and so on then they can be where they belong can't have your cake and eat it to sorry as a Canadian or America these families and people sometimes are given more benefits then the citizens of canada or USA and we may not agree with what these crazy people believe but we don't kill people for having a difference of opinion but these groups do and we do in fact need to protect our societies from this expanding I to a very black evil world of killing. They pronounce their "ala" and sadly misrepresent many good Muslims out there thy use their religion to justify killing which no true god would ever do and if they are so religious and not just people who empower themselves to feel better I'd be very concerned if there really is a god because we aren't all here by coincidence or less worthy and maybe these evil people are being tested but sadly failing but don't know it yet

  16. Not any Muslim or catholic or Jewish or other has ever sat down with god and had coffee we are all in this world together and of the same source ignorance breeds ignorance only and if someone blogs ignorance against what Norway just did I hope the governments watch that very carefully also because chances are they are evil to

  17. I also feel a lot of these hate crimes come from societies who have been oppressed and taught to oppress many unloved or deep rooted hurts if their own who are just angry grownup children. Sadly in our world not any one person should be hungry hated homeless opreased or discriminated against if the world ha one order and the government ruling over it was not money hungry or seeking complete power etc so how does that happen in a perfect world where every society is equal sharing in all the world without the rulers taking over falsely ....if there was a way to have a fair government on all issues and not very one else feeling they deserve more then the next person we wouldn't have all this craziness or at least we would have a better handle on it.....if their was one government living the same level along with the people and no one suffered everyone had the same would there be all this hate? Maybe? But the trouble with that is who do you trust when minds can't be read to know who is evil or good so here we remain in a world where people kill and try to control and hate gets created from governments who all

  18. From governments who allow children to be taken away from good fathers from evil doing mothers by law to poor uneducated people killing because they are angry or taught from another who was angry having to many goverents isn't helping our world but everyone wants to be right and in control and I thought that was why we have the United Nations but the trouble there is too many leaders and deep rooted learned behaviours from to many cultures...why do we live in this modern age of so many cultures when aren't we really just one human being group ? Yet here we are hating and killing without understanding the deeper rooted reasons why and with that said ther is always going to be another hot head big mouth who speaks before they think and acts with evil not with concern for everyone and people who go around killing or hurting others to prove a point or be in power don't deserve to be in our society ....our governtn needs to learn a lot in fairness themselves but seem to forget these cultures start with the family and what is taught at home is is r rally any different for a government to send the message it's ok to take a child from a loving parent and make that man poor doing so so an evil woman can become rich or visa versa so maybe start paying attention to the hungry families the education taught in these families and how every system in the world is unfair to the next and have a better united government where everyone is equal an remove those who kill for sport or gain self protection is different then that and threats where the radicals try to use it as an excuse to kill trying to justify it but no one is taking people like thy are and killing innocent people to get a rise out of the world only evil does that and Poutin is no better than Isis that's why we have the United Nations to avoid this crap so when a member of the United Nations acts this way and kills the rest of the United Nations should be standing together

  19. To many spoons in the pot each wanting power and riches where our world needs equality starting right at the very bottom called our families and home life. Our education system should be world wide and teach not hate but love and respect and fairness but how can a world teach that when it does t live by example thus history and generations amount to hate uneducated societies and babies running the world

  20. When you see an army of babies being taught it's ok and good to shoot a fun and kill there should be concern and if you think that there are not mentalities teaching their babies the same thing in canada or USA or anywhere else living in our society that protects them you're crazy and then they are shocked at radicalism already being here so deporting is correct but actually allowing these families in to these countries is the first problem the real issue is immigration and those who run it not paying attention to the years post immigration and what happens or is set in place because those belief systems don't get dropped at the border......our countries until there is one fair proper government of the world needs to close their borders to more populating of these radical thinkers and breeders until the education of children changes our society won't because everyone thinks they are right because their mothers and fathers taught them hate or good depends which you were raised with but chances are good families coming from these countries have it deeply rooted in their thinking and at the bottom of it all stems insecurity which creates people who seek power pay attention governments we aren't so far away that all this can't occur right in our home towns to now because you've allowed it so clean it up or you won't be able to later

  21. Asylum is one thing but opening up borders to let the evil in here is another

  22. It's really not so different from when you hear the stories about a loving family who opens up their loving home to someone less fortunate like a refuge or a foster child and that person kills them in their sleep .....are we really all asleep

  23. It all comes down to trust and if someone is given a gift then shows unappreciation and behaviour that is less then grateful but in fact behaviour that promotes evil yes immediately they should be deported that was their own choice to do stupid things and they can live among their type who promote evil

  24. To all you pro immigration bloggers you aren't even talking about the real issues and that's the terrorism this is not about business really and all that it's about extremists who are killing so if your so educated pay attention sadly these evil doers are the ones making things bad for those who aren't like them but they are deporting people with connections to the evil doers or radicals which is a must or your great country who gives you work and money will no longer exist so maybe you should be pro immigration tightening down in that or your sweet world as you've been permitted to know it won't exist ......further more all that was said about immigrates being the ones to work most is such crap they actually are given more help then the actual people who were born there which by the way we would never get from other countries so before you run your mouth on immigration educate yourself of what is happening in the real world and the world you were granted to come I to for a better life because it could be taken from you in a flash if you support evil doers or if hear evil doers enter your society then you won't have freedom or rights unless you are one of them which I tend to worry about when I see often Muslim men getting angry others are deported and they aren't being sent home for stealing a choc bar my friends they are sent back for far greater realities then that and do I care if an immigrant took a less paying job in the British world that is educated no I do not it was their choice to immigrate obviously to come to what was better then what they had and here they are slamming a society that have them a chance saying we should keep those who promote hate crimes get a grip and anyone who feels that way should be deported along with them as that's scary in itself that someone would defend it

  25. Governments please pay close attention to these blogs you may find people that come from long lines of Muslims who were born citizens because of immigration being pro terrorism and that's even scarier

  26. The only way to stop generations of hate is to close borders to this enough is enough

  27. The three Jihadi Muslim girls and the Jihadi John were in a wrong place at a wrong time in a non-Muslim school with non-Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. They suffer from identity crises. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. They were not radicalised at a non-Muslim school, says principal. But the school with non-Muslim teachers are responsible to create identity crises. Muslim children must be in state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Why should we be surprised? They have gone through a rotten education system where there is no consequences for anything and they have grown up in a rather pathetic, wet nation with a liberal criminal justice system which actually seems to view law upholding people with pure contempt. Jihadi John has been identified, tried and convicted by the media. Surely this would prejudice any criminal case against him. In my opinion, he was also radicalised by MI5. To stop radicalisation of teens we need to find out the cause. We will get no where if all we do is just condemn but to actually stop this we need to find the cause and stop immediately, that includes All the way from extremist imams to extremist family members AND the pressure and the factor some of the security forces have upon teens.

    A teacher claims Jihadi John had anger management therapy because of fighting and bullying. Muslim children in state schools have been victim of racism and bullying, All schools tried their best to hide such incidents under the carpet. Native teachers are chicken racist and they do nothing. When a Muslim child take the law in his hand by attacking the culprit, he is referred to anger management therapy by the teacher or punished by the school. Because of such treatment, Muslim children are unable to develop self-respect, self-confidence and self-esteem. In my opinion, it is a crime against humanity to send Muslim Muslim children to non-Muslim schools with non-Muslim teachers. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim. I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim school since early 70s because of racism and bullying. I set up the first Muslim school in 1981 in London, now there are 188 Muslim schools and only 18 are state funded. I would like to see each and every Muslim child in a Muslim school with Muslim teachers, otherwise, the number of Jihadi John would be on the increase.

    In Islam there is no commandment to kill people by making such allegations against them. The cartoonists had exercised their freedom of expression, and freedom of expression is totally allowed in Islam. Even during the Prophet's time there were several instances of ridicule, however the Prophet and his Companions neither punished such persons nor asked anyone to do so. On every occasion of this kind, the Prophet's Companions always tried to positively disseminate the message of Islam. They never tried to punish these people. The killing of those people who had published the cartoons is a gravely un-Islamic act in the name of Islam. What did killing Saddam Hussan do. What did killing Oshama Bin laden do? NOTHING!!!. There is a long long line of replacements. I don't know the answers. He was asked by MI5 to join you know he is working for them.

    1. really, the biggest bullshit I've ever heard

  28. Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children. Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector.

    There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society.

    The British establishment is wrong in thinking that Imams are to blame for extremism. Imams are not solution to the problem for extremism. Extremism is nothing to do with Imams. Extremism is not created from abroad, it is coming from within. Britain fails to help Muslim communities feel part of British society. Race trouble is being predicted by the Daily Express, because of an ethnic boom in UK major cities. Muslim communities need imams for the solutions of their needs and demands in their own native languages. Muslim parents would like to see their children well versed in Standard English and to go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. The fact is that majority of Muslim children leave schools with low grades because monolingual teachers are not capable to teach Standard English to bilingual Muslim children. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.

    None of 7/7 bombers and British Muslim youths who are in Syria and Iraq are the product of Muslim schools. They are the product of British schooling which is the home of institutional racism with chicken racist native teachers. It is absurd to believe that Muslim schools, Imams and Masajid teach Muslim children anti-Semitic, homophobic and anti-western views. It is dangerously deceptive and misleading to address text books and discuss them out of their historical, cultural and linguistic context.

    When a native Brit goes to Middle East, he is called a voluntary fighter. When a Muslim goes there he is called a terrorist. Double standard by the British society. Also lot of British Jews went to Israel to fight but on their return no action was taken against them.

  29. So many people forget that there is faith and then there is the INTERPRETATION of faith that's what defines the good from evil enough said



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